
28 March 2026
PAPod 591 - Workers Are the Solution: A Conversation with Corey Pitzer
PreAccident Investigation Podcast
About
Todd Conklin talks with Corey Pitzer about fatality prevention, Human and Organizational Performance (HOP), and how safety thinking has shifted globally.
They explore controversial views—treating workers as problem-solvers, tensions between engineering/energy-based approaches and systemic/new-view thinking—and use real examples to show why designing systems that absorb variation matters more than trying to eliminate risk.