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From Broadway Swing to Principal: Eight Shows a Week...with Victor Carrillo Tracey
24 August 2026

From Broadway Swing to Principal: Eight Shows a Week...with Victor Carrillo Tracey

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Your voice is the most temperamental instrument you’ll ever own, and this week Victor Carrillo Tracey – original company member of Broadway’s The Outsiders – walks you through what it takes to keep one working eight shows a week. Hydration and sleep swap places at number one, alcohol and caffeine cost more than you think, and inspiration doesn’t get a vote when downbeat is 8pm. You’ll hear how a single college voice lesson with a head cold taught Victor to navigate around a compromised instrument years before he needed it on Broadway, and why nerves usually answer to preparation rather than talent. Book the room. Play your opener as the last song of soundcheck. Always Be Performing starts well before anyone’s watching.


Then it gets nerdy. Victor breaks down what a swing actually is (think relief pitcher), and how he covered nine tracks at once before working his way up to playing Paul full-time. You’ll pick up forced perspective, the staging trick that tells an audience exactly where to look and translates straight to your own stage. Plus the band sealed in the pit under the apron, monitor wedges in the floor and sidefills in the wings, a rig that tracks each voice around the house, watching a Broadway book get written in real time, and Dave’s case for mixing your in-ears in stereo instead of piling everything up the middle. Victor’s last Outsiders show is October 11th, right around performance number one thousand…and he still tells himself this is the best job ever before every show.




    00:00:00 Gig Gab 548 – Monday, August 24th, 2026

      August 24th: International Strange Music Day
      Guest co-host: Victor Carrillo Tracey


    00:02:45 The voice is the most temperamental instrument

      00:06:04 The benefits of an education
      Always Be Learning – Beginner’s Mind


    00:08:54 Learning to navigate around your voice when things are non-optimal
    00:13:28 Taking care of your voice

      The most important thing is hydration.
      Except Sleep is the most important thing.
      Be aware of alcohol and caffeine


    00:17:01 Inspiration won’t always strike
    00:18:35 And taking care of your body
    00:20:55 Preparing yourself for success

      Play your opener as your last soundcheck song before the house opens
      You can visualize this, too!
      Book the room to rehearse in advance
      Always be preparing
      Having a preparation mindset


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    00:30:08 Being a Swing

      Kinda like a relief pitcher
      Nine tracks at once!


    00:33:33 Ok, a detour into musical theater and The Outsiders
    00:39:02 Forced Perspective
    00:43:12 Missing playing a non-voice instrument
    00:45:19 Playing with the band in a theater show

      …without seeing your bandmates


    00:50:46 Watching the Broadway book being built

      And recording the Cast Album at Power Station at BerkleeNYC Music Studio
      Jamie Eblen
      Justin Levine


    00:56:11 Mixing a musical…and hearing it on stage!

      Monitor wedges in the apron
      Sidefills in the wings
      Cody Spencer


    01:04:55 Previews are grueling, and great!
    01:05:45 Mix your in-ears in stereo

      Nothing up the middle: kick one degree right, snare one degree left.


    01:07:43 Victor’s leaving The Outsiders after 2.5 years

      Choosing your destiny…follow your gut

        And make it happen!


      Gratitude!

        “This is the best job ever” before going on stage every time.




    01:12:37 Gig Gab 548 Outtro

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