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Math Trauma vs. Math Anxiety: What's Actually Holding You Back?
30 September 2026

Math Trauma vs. Math Anxiety: What's Actually Holding You Back?

Breaking Math Podcast

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"I'm just not a math person." If you've ever said that about yourself, this episode is for you.

Dr. Geillan Aly, author of Compassionate Math, joins Breaking Math to break down the real difference between math anxiety and math trauma — and why mathematics, more than almost any other subject, is uniquely built to make one bad experience feel like permanent proof of failure.

In this episode we cover:

00:00 – What is math trauma, and why is it different from anxiety?

02:35 – Why math specifically (vs. history, reading, or other subjects)?

07:28 – Teaching concepts vs. teaching procedures

13:32 – The "sixes" story: a failing student's transformative breakthrough

20:15 – Math anxiety vs. math trauma, explained

28:56 – Whose fault is math trauma — students, teachers, or society?

36:21 – How compassionate math scales beyond the classroom

39:21 – One piece of advice for students, and one for teachers

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(https://www.compassionatemath.com/)

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