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Are You Burned Out or Just Numb?
29 October 2026

Are You Burned Out or Just Numb?

Ancient Health Podcast

About
Numbed out, checked out, scrolling through your day? At 19, Nashville family therapist Dr. Stacy Jagger hit a wall that landed her in a psychiatric hospital. She shares what pulled her back and why your childhood voids become your adult values. Plus: the “turn off, turn in, turn up” questions she uses with families, and the one free step anyone can take if therapy isn’t affordable.

Includes discussion of suicide and abuse; if you're struggling call 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: call or text 988. RAINN: 800-656-4673.

Chapters:

00:00 Numbed out and don't know it

00:35 Intro: Dr. Stacy Jagger, round two

03:12 Raising Sassy: the book that starts in a hospital

05:06 Hitting a wall at 19

07:19 Three small moments that saved her

09:41 Numbed out or revved up: the signs

14:20 Seven to nine hours of screens

16:03 Turn off, turn in, turn up

20:32 Your nervous system in plain English, and the window of SASS

24:15 Your childhood voids became your highest values

25:58 The feelings ball (Dr. Motley goes first)

29:02 Club Potty: dancing at 5 a.m.

30:59 Trauma as residue, and ketamine-assisted therapy

36:34 What are you going to do with your broken heart?

40:52 You are nature turned inside out

44:40 Can't afford therapy? One trusted friend

49:31 The hard way is the shortcut

52:42 Catalytic Family Therapy and where to find her

55:35 Disclaimer



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